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Post by Duppy on Mar 31, 2022 6:12:57 GMT
A reminder for those of you that don't have smart meters, or those whose meters have not yet been connected. Don't forget to take and submit readings before midnight, (you could always add a few on so that you are paying for future energy at today's price)
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Post by gerryhatrick on Mar 31, 2022 8:06:12 GMT
Might be a nice idea but it is fraud!
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Post by struttg on Mar 31, 2022 8:31:47 GMT
Taking a meter reading by tonight is a wise thing to do and you have to have an edge!
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Post by scubaseahorse on Mar 31, 2022 9:53:31 GMT
Just tried to log in to give my meter reading and the site appears to have crashed!!
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Post by struttg on Mar 31, 2022 10:29:06 GMT
Yep ditto. Later tonight take photo's off your meter for justin....guess Shells site is taking a bashing...... hope you and Y'all in fine fettle...
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Post by Duppy on Mar 31, 2022 10:32:45 GMT
Might be a nice idea but it is fraud! But is it? Isn't that what energy suppliers do, forward buying the energy that they need, and then selling it on. This was the subject of a thread on the PP community forum when PP went bust. They had forward bought (hedged) a set amount of energy (Not enough it seems) BP went on to sell that cheap energy at the inflated prices. It's just playing the same game as suppliers, but on a much smaller scale
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Post by gerryhatrick on Mar 31, 2022 10:46:13 GMT
Yes it’s fraud. Technically obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception. Theft. I suspect most suppliers will have blocked reading submissions today! As you are required to submit readings for energy consumed it is not forward buying. Forward buying is a legitimate contract between suppliers. We have no contract that enables that. Definitely an offence but I doubt whether action will be taken. I suspect some suppliers will question unusually high readings. In the good old days suppliers would cut you off.
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Antski
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Post by Antski on Mar 31, 2022 15:13:00 GMT
Chance would be a fine thing! “Service unavailable” this afternoon. I did one a few days ago but it’s annoying that I can’t get a reading in right now. EonNext is down too. My regular billing read day is the 5th anyway. I’ve done a few through the month and I’ll just take a photo before I go to bed tonight, submit the reading when the page starts working again and squabble over any difference if I can be bothered.
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Post by Antski on Mar 31, 2022 15:39:21 GMT
A nice simple email form now appears on the page where it says they’re extremely busy. Quite a good response to the situation really.
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Post by Duppy on Mar 31, 2022 18:29:23 GMT
I can't even log in, just says service unavailable According to the news it's affecting quite a few suppliers
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Antski
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Post by Antski on Mar 31, 2022 20:26:22 GMT
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Post by struttg on Apr 1, 2022 12:09:00 GMT
I guess as I don't have a smart meter I will get a monthly email/link on the first of the month asking for my meter readings in format as when you log on - this appeared to work today. So this fits in with last month. Account readings start and end on the first of each month. The online account remains caplunk.
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Post by struttg on Apr 1, 2022 20:49:39 GMT
Now able to logon and meter readings sent earlier via the Shell email link all fine and dandy...so not so bandy. Think I'll endeavour to run the account on a deficit and keep the matching amount earning a few pennies. Won't amount to much and thats the only edge too dredge.
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Post by gerryhatrick on Apr 2, 2022 8:50:00 GMT
You could see if you can change the DD to pas as you go. That is how mine is so I am only paying in arrears for what is used. I can’t remember choosing this option but found that is how they set it up.
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Post by struttg on Apr 2, 2022 19:33:34 GMT
I can exactly forecast day to day and month to month and up to year end what it costs on a spread sheet with an eye on historical weather.. No need for a smart meter. I'll pay a deceasing DD and provide one off payments if I'm pushed. Gonna keep what I owe ring fenced in my account.
Can't believe how our short sighted governments failed to tackle our energy infrastructure, the writing has been on the wall for donkeys.
Over educated morons running tings who lack intelligence and wisdom whilst they feather their own nests.......
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