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Post by 25 quid on Sept 22, 2022 12:14:03 GMT
So I received an email from Shell:
Not long since gas was 3.9p. Just checked, that was in March! Nearly 3 times increase! Bloody hell!
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Post by Duppy on Sept 22, 2022 19:45:36 GMT
Likewise, but if it wasn't for this price guarantee, it would be a lot worse. Don't forget there is also the various payouts to compensate, my email says I'm entitled to £400 discount for the Energy Bills Support Scheme,there is also the winter fuel payment of £500 if you qualify
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Post by 25 quid on Sept 23, 2022 7:41:32 GMT
Indeed. It's bad, but it could have been worse... Whoop
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Post by gerryhatrick on Sept 23, 2022 8:53:21 GMT
If we think these are bad have a look at what businesses have to pay. Even allowing for the Government proposed rebate (not a cap) I am seeing increases of 383% for electricity and 700% for gas. Without the rebate they would be around 530% and 900% respectively. I have no idea where the government gets the idea that the rebate will produce a 50% reduction on what would have been payable. Nearer 33% or less.
My new Shell rates are 10.20 for gas with an SC of 28.48 and for electricity 32.239 and a SC of 49.93.
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Post by struttg on Sept 23, 2022 20:52:57 GMT
Forecasted to year end £2K including increased Tariff from Oct - Dec
New Tariff £2,600 based on 12 months without further increase 2023
Forecasts do included extreme/ish winter like 2017/2018
GAS: 10.509 28.48
ELEC: 35.797 33.15
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Post by Duppy on Sept 24, 2022 4:26:36 GMT
struttg are you sure your electric S/C is correct? It seems very low compared to mine 48.59p per day
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Post by gerryhatrick on Sept 24, 2022 8:43:01 GMT
It does seem low.
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Post by gwyndy on Sept 24, 2022 9:01:29 GMT
Mine says:
Electricity increasing from 29.289p to 33.973p
Standing charge increasing from 48.14p to 49.16p
Overall effect:
Projection was £1533
Projection now £1810
Thank goodness we've somehow managed to cut our electricity consumption by approximately 20%
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Post by struttg on Sept 24, 2022 9:27:52 GMT
Cheers Duppy - I guess your electricity unity cost is less
How this affects your energy prices
Your electricity rates are changing from 29.632p to 35.797p per kWh and your standing charge per day is changing from 32.14p to 33.15p.
Your gas rates are changing from 7.517p to 10.509p per kWh and your standing charge per day is changing from 27.22p to 28.48p.
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Post by Duppy on Sept 24, 2022 10:26:02 GMT
struttg. My unit rates are similar to yours. How this affects your energy prices Your electricity rates are changing from 29.584p to 35.982p per kWh and your standing charge per day is changing from 47.58p to 48.59p. Your gas rates are changing from 7.365p to 10.344p per kWh and your standing charge per day is changing from 27.22p to 28.48p.
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Post by struttg on Sept 25, 2022 9:28:58 GMT
Hi Duppy, based on my Energy I pay a little less overall Energy Usage forecasted to year end Jan - Dec Gas: 16,746.78 Elec: 1849 using rates from Oct 1st
SC USAGE Variance
GAS £00.00 £44.38 £44.38
ELEC £(56.36) £(3.46) £(59.81)
£(56.36) £40.92 £(15.43)
£15.43
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Post by Duppy on Sept 26, 2022 6:40:53 GMT
Hi struttg that doesn't really explain why your standing charge is so much lower, although I have heard of plans where the S/C is lower for higher consumption users |
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Post by struttg on Sept 26, 2022 8:59:22 GMT
The standing charge is based on regions etc and I guess there would be uproar if it was based on benefits for consumption.
I Just found this:
What are gas and electricity standing charges?
Gas and electricity standing charges are the fees your energy supplier imposes for giving you access to energy – they help pay for the UK’s energy distribution networks. Added to almost all energy bills, they are generally fixed at a flat daily rate.
However, the level of this rate can vary widely, based on the type of energy, the company providing it, and where you live.
The amount you have to pay will also depend on whether you are on a single-fuel or a dual-fuel tariff.
Standing charges also vary in-line with the energy price-cap previously imposed by UK energy regulator, Ofgem. They are also included in the calculations for the government’s new Energy Price Guarantee, which supplants the Ofgem cap from 1 October 2022.
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Post by gerryhatrick on Sept 27, 2022 8:22:00 GMT
Well they could have added “They are also used as a method of recovering the costs of companies that collapsed due to errors made by Ofgem.”
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Post by 25 quid on Sept 27, 2022 13:18:15 GMT
Yup, added to electric as some folk don't use gas.
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