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Post by Duppy on Nov 10, 2022 16:19:23 GMT
gerryhatrick, I assume you are talking about the Ivie bud and app. I tried to pair my chameleon IHD with the app as it's made by the same company, after trying a number of times, I contacted chameleon to be informed that the app only works with the bud. As the IHD isn't as informative as the Geo supplied by PP, I have considered the bud. As a compromise I am trying the Loop app which pairs with the meter itself, but the updates aren't as instant as they could be, so not really any use to monitor your "usage now" but it does give a breakdown of times of usage, if you can remember what was turned on and when
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Post by 25 quid on Nov 11, 2022 12:19:15 GMT
So is that an alternative IHD for your smart meter? ivie.co.uk/product/ivie-bud/Is mentions remote activation - no engineer visits. Does that mean that it requires internet access to their server to spew your data into the cloud and chew it over there? Looks interesting, but I'm still not sold on having a smart meter, especially after the recent news of suppliers sneakily swapping them to pre-payment mode and hence switching people off if they didn't know or didn't top up. All without needing to visit your house!
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Post by 25 quid on Nov 11, 2022 12:21:52 GMT
Oh Duppy, I just saw your reply on the next page after I replied to gerryhatrick. Looks like there's a few different options. How do these gadgets categorise what device is using what energy?
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Post by Duppy on Nov 11, 2022 17:32:03 GMT
@25 quid, basically when using the bud, or loop app, you give your MPAN, the company can then access your meter and provide the data, but as previously mentioned the loop app does not give the instant usage now data required, I don't know about the Bud device, but assume that it's similar to the IHD. Other than going around with the IHD (on battery) and switching things on or off, I haven't found a way to determine if/how to identify appliance usage ongoing, as it only seems to provide total usage, either historically (Upto 42 days) or almost instant on the usage now tab. One thing I will say for them is that my daughter is finally starting to take notice, possibly because she is in the process of getting a house with her fiance
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Post by Duppy on Nov 11, 2022 23:10:12 GMT
Interestingly the Loop app is starting a Turn down and save program, where you can be rewarded for reducing your usage during certain times. More info here loop.homes/turn-down-and-save/. Only available to those with a smart meter, sorry @25 quid
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Post by gerryhatrick on Nov 12, 2022 10:11:50 GMT
I looked at the present reincarnation of Loop but did not like the app very much, found it confusing and somewhat messy. I did have the Loop system some years ago which I assume they no longer make. That was not wonderful.
The Ivie IDU is a replacement for that supplied by your Energy company installing the smart meter. The latter for me went in the cupboard. It did not always work. Sometimes it could not connect with electricity, sometimes gas. The readings were slow in updating. Like many others here it was consigned to the back of the cupboard. The Ivie IDU is smaller. It takes quite some time to initially connect with the meters. Could be an hour or so. I left it doing its stuff overnight. Once that connection is over if you ever unplug it (it is not battery driven) it quickly reboots and connects, no long delay.
A nicer display to see and more informative plus the Ivie app connects to give you the same info and more past data.
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Post by 25 quid on Nov 14, 2022 8:45:26 GMT
Hey, interesting. Smart billing is definitely the future and it makes sense to "not do your dishwashing now" rather than building another power station, or have a rolling blackout. £3 per kilowatt. Hmmm, a pint (or swift half) to not do the dishwashing. Tempting. 🤣
Maybe one day I will trust a meter with a remote-controlled Power-Off switch. 😉
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Post by gerryhatrick on Nov 14, 2022 9:08:03 GMT
I wish I could get a pint for £3! In a pub or restaurant that is.
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Post by Duppy on Nov 14, 2022 10:11:05 GMT
The main problem with the TDAS program is that if like most people you have already reduced your usage, to reduce it further by 40% is quite difficult. And as it goes by your usage for the same period, next year it would be almost impossible I think I prefer the octopus scheme of a free hour of electricity during a defined time period
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Post by 25 quid on Nov 14, 2022 11:41:21 GMT
Yeah, sounds like it's gonna be confusing, open to abuse and unfair at times. But 'we' gotta try something different.
Getting all those electric cars to drain their daytime charge leftovers into the grid at teatime and then drink it back overnight seems like a bigger potential win...
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